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rallybuilder
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New and questions...

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Brought my girls up (from Whitefish, MT) for a TAK event and they enjoyed it. Bought my 11 year old a used Cadet kart last fall. Went to Colorado and spent a day driving a friend's kart. He won the Colorado championship last year and sold me everything as he's tired of the politics in that series. One of the karts will be Junior for my 12, soon to be 13 year old daughter. All karts are LO206. My plan had been to come up on Monday for kid kart then maybe added test and tune Tuesday mornings.
Questions
1 - Are kid kart nights open to novice juniors?
2 - I see the calendar test and tune. Are there others or is best plan to become track steward so they can practice when we can make it up there.
3 - I see references to single day member vs season. I presume it quickly makes sense to get full membership?
4 - Is there open test and tune during/between TAK run groups?
5 - Is TAK the only way to get non members and potential new drivers into a kart? Or can they get single day memberships to drive my karts? Things are more fun with friends. 😁

Tech questions
1 - Do the karts need a redundant brake pedal cable? I've been reading the different rules but haven't found that yet.
2 - Any suggestions on sprocket setup for the cadet kart on the required slide?
3 - Our cadet LO206 seal is black not orange. I'm guessing that's not legal for racing anymore.
We spent past few days going through the karts and I'm sure there's more questions but this is what I have for now. We may come up this weekend and spectate and helmet/seat/kart shop. I've raced rally cars with a few members and have 20 years of racing experience in rally and track endurance racing. Started a company and have built about 20 race and rally cars for people over the years, mostly doing cage and chassis prep. Excited to get my kids more into real racing. We do a lot of DH mountain biking, climbing, and skiing.
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JasonL
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Re: New and questions...

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Welcome! It’s great to see more and more families participating together.

My take at your questions:
1) Monday evening Kid Kart sessions are for a specific class of kart so you wouldn’t be able to participate at that time.
2) Tuesday and Thursday are supervised T&T nights. With a supervisor, the track can be accessed most times when a formal event is not occurring - it is the best way to get more seat time.
3) Yup.
4) There is little free track time during TAK sessions. Members cannot use the track during TAK sessions.
5) We have a couple Friends and Family days each year. This may be the best chance to drive with non-member friends.

Tech
1) I’m not certain if it is mandated, but given the ease of putting one in place, you should have one.

I’ll pass on 2&3, as it’s been a long time since I was using Briggs karts.
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Adding on to Jason's response:

First Section:
1) Kid kart is for bambino karts and cadet karts running purple slides. The age range is competition age 6 to 12. Those nights are not open to karts with Junior (adult) frames.
3) You may find references to day memberships around these forums but they have been discontinued. The best way to access the track with your own equipment is to become a member, or attend on race weekends and pay an additional fee (practice on Fridays included). For you, making the trip up, plan to drive during the days. Members who have completed the supervisor course can run during times when no other events are scheduled. This is a great time to learn.

Tech Questions:
1) Yes, the secondary / backup cable is required. It's easy to make one with a couple cable clamps and some old throttle wire. Bike cables work for this too!
2) At full cadet (green slide) start with running about a 3.30 ratio. Because your karts could have any number of front sprocket teeth, count those and multiply by 3.3 and that will give you a sense of what kind of gearing your should have on the rear. For purple, the ratio is much lower (3.10 ish?)
3) Those black (holographic sometimes) seals are no longer legal for racing but totally fine for practice. Briggs and Stratton Canadian rules are below. Also, there are engines built specifically for Canada, they will be marked with a maple leaf on the base of the engine block. These engines are required for competition (but not practice!).

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... t+2025.pdf

Other things to note: Tires, for racing there are class mandated tires, we run mojo d2s for all briggs classes, it looks like you have vegas on those karts now. Again, fine for practice but as your drivers improve, you'll want to start practicing on the spec tire. If memory serves, those tires are a harder rubber with stiffer sidewalls than the mojo.

On some of those requirements, you need to make it into the top 5 before a lot of technical checks begin so, not necessary, even for your first race.
rallybuilder
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Wow, thanks for the replies! I'll add brake redundancy cable to my to do list.
I was originally thinking both girls would be in cadets this summer but older daughter's jumped to like 5'6" and growing and they no longer both fit in same kart. She turns 13 in July. We'll probably not come up for kid kart nights and plan on alternatives. Goal for this season isn't racing so much as it is seat time, teaching, and learning. Maybe a race or two end of season.
I saw the red text in the rule book about the orange seal which was what made me realize the cadet engine with the black seal probably isn't legal. Didn't see anything about Canada specific 206 motors so that's good to know as the full size kart with orange seal probably isn't Canadian since it was racing in Colorado. I need to spend time on a computer and not a phone and get more familiar with all the different rules.
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You can find all of the Canadian rules under the competitor info tab on our website, some are direct download and some will link you to the ASN Canada website. For practice, with your commute the easiest way would likely be to complete the test and tune supervisor course and shadowing period. This will allow you to go to the track outside of scheduled practice hours and open the gates.
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jash
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Actually, that Canadian rule doesn't apply to you!

In the rules, they've written that it's under review for next season. So, anything could happen! Actual text below and reading it, you're not a Canadian resident... so wouldn't apply to you!

1. Canadian Eligibility (Updated 1/15/25)
The Briggs & Stratton LO206 Canadian Engine is built for the
Canadian market and has a unique specification. The only LO206
engines that are eligible for Canadian competition by Canadian
residents are identified with a special embossed stamp on the base
of the engine block. Engines that do not bear the official special
embossed stamp cannot be used by Canadian residents.
NOTE: This requirement will be re-evaluated for 2026.
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As has been pointed out, we no longer have day membership option and this is causing problems in certain situations. Regardless, for anyone planning on spending any time on track, a membership is a great deal, except in certain circumstances -like people who live far from the track.

The CKRC has an excellent facility and it takes a LOT of work to maintain it so we have implemented a Refundable Volunteer Fee (RVF) system. When you buy a membership, you will be required to agree to the program. Simply put, the program requires a certain number of hours of your time to be volunteered to the club to maintain the facility. Every hour is worth $20. for a single person, $600 worth is required and for a family, $800. For some reason, the club waives this for new members but it will apply your second year.

Given that you will be converting $US to $CAD, it probably makes more sense to just pay it as it will cost you as much in gas to drive back and forth !

Just something to keep in mind as you're doing calculations.
Mark Hillier #44 Shifter, VLR, Briggs.
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